The lean mean dream washing machine

What if we could create a database filled with dreams about dreaming? Dreamed up by people who seriously look at their dreams for inspiration? I would buy a copy of it right away! Here is the first onset to it.

I wonder how working with dreams would change if everybody who seriously works with dreams would submit their dreams about dreaming into a giant database. In the ideal world someone clever would analyse those dreams and perhaps we could come up with a whole different view about dreams and dreaming. This is one of the dreams I had that tought me something about dreams: I dream about a man explaining to me that dreams are like washing machines.



You take dirty clothes (your way of acting in the world) put them in the Self: did you ever notice that the door of the washing machine is mandala shaped?



You choose the temperature. What emotional temperature do you need to wash your emotions clean? Clean enough to handle them during the day time? Is it going to be nightmarish hot so all the conducts, all the habits of waking life are washed up and sterilized? Or will it be a smoothly wash just to get your way of living refreshed?

You add detergent. An aide to resolve the dirt on your way of acting in the world. To wash away the smell of living day by day. What is your detergent? And how much are you going to use? Are there any stains on your clothes that need some extra care? A solvent that gets the difficult stains out? Some books about dreaming can help you do that. The most recent one I read was written by Justina  Lasley.

Wake up to your dreams

Justina her detergent is the Dream Synergy method. Emotions (the water in the machine), Characters (the stain-solution) and Beliefs (the temperature you choose). For more information see my interview with Justina.

But there are many more good dream detergents. Dream groups like Connie Kaplan mentions.

Woman’s book of dreams

If you are lucky enough to get involved in a dream group (several of them are online) you get different views on your dream. That gets your creative juices flowing. Connie’s second method of interacting with dreams is tuning in with the moon. She talks about how the moon and the woman (wo-moon) merge energies. The energy of the moon colors the meaning of your dream.

Ok back to the washing machine. So you picked together your filthy clothes, choose a temperature, added some detergent and… It all starts tumbling! Everything is jumbled upside down. Meshed around. Beaten up in a steady rhythm. Gently, but firmly. There is no stopping our mean lean washing machine.

In the middle there is… A mandala. the symbol of the Self in Jungian terms. The dream selves tumble round and round, while the mandala closes off the process, so no cloths fall out. Jean Raffa told me about the Mandorla: two mandala’s enclosing.

Healing the sacred divide


This middle place where light and dark touch is where the healing begins she told us.

At the end of the washing process the machine begins to turn around real quick. It is in its spinning cycle. Spinning tales, spinning connecting energies. In such a fast way that all the water, all the emotion is pulled out. Things are often put up side down in dreams. To spin your head around. To make you see that different angle that you otherwise would have missed.

Wanna share a dream about dreaming with me? I might just put it in a database and create that dream book we all are longing for.

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Persephone or how mythology is still relevant

Kore, later known as Persephone, loved flowers. One beautiful day she saw and extraordinary flower. So much beauty she had not seen before in any living being on earth. She reached out her hand... Little did she know that this would change her life forever. Such a little gesture, the picking of a flower changed the whole universe. Do you want to uncover the mythologic themes in your own life? I offer an online Mythology course that helps you explore six different subjects. The Mythology of creation, the Amazing Animal, Mythology of Women, Mythology of Men and the Mythology of the Grail.

Little gestures can have big consequences as in the story of Persephone. Doing nothing can have big repercussions as in the story of ‘Les jeux sont faits‘ written by Sartre. By not being together the couple that thought they where soul mates did not get a second chance of happiness.
We live in a society that hold you responsible for the life you lead. Even though, just as Persephone, you almost never foresee the consequences of our actions. So let’s take a closer look at the myth of Persephone and Hades.
It tells us a lot about our ways of dealing with crises. It tells us a lot about our way of dealing with love. It tells us a lot about our way of dealing with mother – daughter tension.


Persephone and crises

Like Persephone you will be in a crises someday. The one you thought was your soul mate does not love you back, you are rejected for the job of your dreams, you lose a child, you loose a loved one.
The pain is physical. It is like a part of your body is cut off without any form of sedation. You walk around in shock: this is not true. This is not happening. In a moment I am going to wake up…

Going down into the underworld. The underworld smelling of death. Down into the dark earth. It is usually a place off numb despair. The last day my mother was living I visited her… She was in hospital and everything was examined. in my presence a doctor examined her stomach. It was big, like she was in her second trimester of pregnancy. That is when I knew she was running out of time. I was afraid that when I told her she would be so afraid.. I decided that ignorance is bliss. My mother was not dumb. I think she knew her chances of waking up again where very small. I think she just kept on hoping. But both of us did not communicate that. So I went home. I received an email of one of my sisters that my mother was going to be operated. I phoned the hospital to  tell them that my mother would probably not have the strength to survive an operation. The hospital told me that it had to be done. I hung up the phone crying. Feeling powerless. I was in the underworld, in Hades’ realm. It is a place of numbness. I was feeling so sad, so angry, so helpless. I had gone down into the underworld. Involuntarily like Persephone. But it made me connect with my helplessness, with my anger, with my feelings for my mother.

Persephone and love

When I invited Stanley Krippner to give a Personal Mythology workshop in the Netherlands he talked about Persephone. “Nobody ever asks what Persephone thought about all of this” he said. And indeed, the myth of Demeter and her daughter Persephone is told from the perspective of the mother. Demeter who is so heart-broken that her daughter is gone. Taken away by Hades who had fallen desperately in love with her. He was so love struck that he created a flower, the narcissus, for her. The narcissus is a symbol of new beginnings.



Seeing such an extraordinary flower, so different from other flowers, Persephone just had to pick it. Not only stepping into a new beginning, Persephone was drawn into it by Hades. The black earth opened up and Hades pulled her upon his carriage with black horses. So earth longs for spring in a fertile way…


The change in perspective Stanley Krippner suggested in his workshop Personal Mythology is a vital one. You get into the habit of thinking the same thing. About yourself. About your life story. Change perspective. You can pluck the narcissus by retelling your own life story from a new perspective. Step into the perspective of your mother/father/brother/best friend and retell your story through their eyes. See how things change. See how your understanding grows.

Persephone and the mother daughter crises

We all know them don’t we? Daughters who must fulfill their mothers desires. Who must become the film star/writer/photo model etc mother never had the change to be. But even if it is on a more subconscious level there is an innate tendency between mother and daughter. Likewise there is a tendency between father and son that is displayed in the Oedipus myth.

Cindy Crawford and daughter Kaia Gerber

In every women her life she has to take a moment to reflect upon her relationship with her mother. The way your mother dealt with nurturing you and your other siblings. The way your mother dealt with love and sexuality. Is it your way? So mentally or physically, you have to step back and look at what it is that she has taught you. And how you use that knowledge in your life. Is it fruitful for you? Or is it time to focus on your life as lover and queen like Persephone did? It is not necessary to break of your relationship with your mother while you are doing this. It takes a while to contemplate about the unspoken lessons about life. In what way are you still being the daughter, the princess?

Now look at this lady going into Hades realm like a girl, daughter of mother Earth named Kore, and becoming the Queen named Persephone. I can imagine why she ate the pomegranate. In the live of almost every woman she has to break up with her mother. Not forever. But she must let go of the advice and approval of her mother. This is a temporary break up. Each mother and daughter have their moments of separation. Wanted or unwanted. Planned or as a result of actions beyond our control. This enables you to become woman. To search for your own approval. To become the person you would like to spend an evening with.

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Mandorla, a way to see the other side of the coin

"The message is unmistakable
our own healing proceeds from that overlap
of what we call good and evil, light and dark. It is not that 
the light element alone does the healing, the place where 
light and dark begin to touch is where miracles arise.
This middle place is the mandorla"
Robert A. Johnson
Jean Raffa

I had the pleasure of interviewing author Jean Benedict Raffa about her book “Healing the sacred Divide”. You can watch it on the Mindfunda YouTube-channel. Jean is a keynote speaker at the annual conference of the International Association of Dreams (IASD). Healing the sacred divide got the Wilbur Award,  recognizing excellence in the communication of religious issues.

Jean and I talked about how in this day and age we seem to be addicted to war. Inner disagreements and outer arguments where we seek and emphasize the differences between ourselves and “the other”.

In a previous interview I had with Ralph Metzner, I discussed how Europe was taken over by warrior tribes and how this inheritance changed mythology. Jean Raffa describes how our religion is based on those old warrior mythologies. Masculine, with a God image outside of us. Her book Healing the sacred divide is divided in two parts, just like a mandorla.

Healing the sacred divide

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Mandorla consciousness #1

The first part tells about the eight mistakes in our current concept of God. This part analysis how culture has emphasized one part of the continuum: creating a masculine God, that is outside of us and that really lacks a female touch. With female I mean the qualities our culture has marked feminine like empathy, intuition, acting based on an inner knowing instead of facts. Qualities that both male and female posses and express. It is a clear statement how we need both sides: we need to combine facts with intuitive insights.

Mandorla consciousness #2

The second part tells about the nine wisdom gifts of integrating the divided God image. She builds up the second mandala of consciousness fout of nine stones of wisdom. A nine folded lapis lazuli. Holistic consciousness, transforming light, acceptance of the shadow, emotional integrity, partnership, balance, sovereignty, meaning and the mandorla consciousness.

Mandorla consciousness #3

In the interview Jean Raffa shares a dream about her shadow that she has never shared before. It is a clear example of how valuable working with dreams can be. To out value on your dream images is a sure step towards more inner peace and acceptance. Like Robert Waggoner explained to us in his interview with me about Lucid dreaming plain and simple: dreams can provide key insights towards integrating your own shadow. those parts of yourself you are used to project on somebody else.

Mandorla consciousness #4

In the interview Jean Raffa told me that the key to a happy live is the ability to unite opposites. Her book holds valuable keys to make that work much easier. I wish I read this book years earlier. It would have saved me a lot of pain and mistakes. But then again, I might have missed out on a lot of wisdom…

Other Books from Jean Benedict Raffa:

Dream Theaters of the soul (clck the image for the kindle version)
What are your dreams telling you? Dr. Raffa believes that “dreams show us who we are and what we can become.” In this fascinating book of how to analyze dreams, explore the feminine aspects, and use dreams to grow emotionally and spiritually, Raffa combines the metaphor of a theatre with the practicality of a handbook to provide a practical guide to understanding your dreams.

Dream theaters of the soul kindle version


Bridge to wholeness

Bridge to Wholeness, ” describes an inner feminine way where one makes peace with dragons instead of fighting them. This moving account of a mythic journey from humility to strength, through darkness to light, carries a powerful message of unity and balance for seekers everywhere.”


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